Subary Legacy BE/BH factory satnav and climate replacement

This is a copy of a post I wrote on the Club Sub forums.

Here’s how to replace a Subaru OEM “FM Hybrid Navigation System” included in many JDM BE and BH Legacys (MY1998-2003). This unit also functions as a display for the HVAC (heating, ventilation and air conditioning) controls so it’s a pain if you want to rip it out or don’t have the firmware CD (I have a working image of this if you need it BTW).

The good new is you can replace it with the standard auto climate panel. Note that all the mechanics and wreckers I’ve spoken to say this can’t be done; however it can and I have! It took a bit of hacking and research, and I’ve never found any instructions on it anywhere so I’ve written this in case you want to have a go yourself. Unfortunately I didn’t take the photos until afterwards so there aren’t many.

Before:

After:

Before I start, I should mention that if you modify your car it is at your own risk. I am not to be held responsible for any damage or injury caused as a result of using the information in this post. It has worked well for me but there may be variations between models, etc.

Stuff you will need (read notes!)

  • Auto climate control unit part 72311AExxx (xxx can be 000, 100, 170 or 180)
  • Plugs to fit above unit with a few inches of cable attached
  • Stereo mounting brackets to suit above unit
  • Suitable dash surround
  • Dash air sensor for 170/180 units
  • #1 Phillips screwdriver
  • #1 Phillips stubby
  • Plastic wedge/flat blade screwdriver/butter knife for unclipping the fascia
  • Soldering iron and solder
  • Heatshrink tubing (approx 4mm dia)
  • Black PVC insulation tape (use good stuff like Nitto)

First, some important notes. It seems there are several different types of ‘standard’ (i.e. non-satnav) climate panel available; 000, 100, 170 and 180. There may even be others for all I know. The 030 is the satnav-style one. The 000 and 100 were used from 1998 to 2000 and have a built-in air temperature sensor. I’ve no idea what the difference between the two is.

The 170 and 180 were used from 2001 to 2003 and have a separate air sensor located in the dash surround. I’m not sure what the official difference between them is but I do know the 180 doesn’t beep when you press buttons and doesn’t seem to be quite compatible with the 170 wiring loom. Maybe someone else here can explain in better detail.

I replaced my old 030 with a 170 and it works fine. I have no idea what to expect with the others but can’t see why they wouldn’t work either; I doubt Subaru engineers would make significant changes to the electrical specs as it would just cost them money.

Whatever type you choose, make sure you get the plugs and wiring to match that same part number! They all physically fit the same but I’ve been warned by my mechanic that Subaru had a habit of changing the pins around with each model.

Shop around too; try TradeMe, eBay and various wreckers as prices vary widely. I was originally quoted between $220-$300 but in the end I got mine from RPM Garage for US$55.

The other thing to note is the dash fascia. Obviously to save money you could just replace the fascia around the stereo with one of a matching colour. Mine was fake wood grain so I decided to go the whole hog and replace the entire kit (transmission shift fascia, stereo fascia, drink holder and lighting control panel) with a smarter black brushed aluminium look. Note you will need to find a shift fascia that matches your transmission type.

If you use a 170 or 180 controller you will need the surround that has an air temperature sensor on it. It’s probably easiest to visit a wreckers in person so you can hand pick all the bits you need.

Procedure

There is a nice post with photos on getting things apart here. I’ve described it anyway.

First up you should disconnect the battery ground.

The transmission fascia simply unclips. Start by carefully lifting the handbrake end straight up until it pops off, then gently pull the fascia towards the rear of the car until the top two clips pop out. Manuals you will need to unscrew the gear shift knob, autos you need to unplug the mode switch.

Remove the two screws on the accessory tray and lift it out.

Remove the ash tray. There are two screws under the stereo fascia where the ash tray sits; remove these.

The stereo fascia simply pulls out. You will need to run a flat object around the sides to help unclip everything. I use a stainless butter knife wrapped in PVC tape for this to prevent damage to the dash. The drink holder and climate buttons come out with the fascia.

Disconnect any plugs from the fittings on the fascia and the air temperature sensor hose.

Undo the screw below the air vents and gently pop the air vent panel out slightly to make room for the next step.

Undo the six screws on the stereo brackets and remove the stereo/satnav assembly. It’s quite heavy and there are a lot of plugs to disconnect! Be careful not to knock the sharp metal brackets on the dash as it scratches very easily.

The climate system consists of three units; a beige box on top of the satnav unit, the satnav unit itself and the button panel. The beige box is the HVAC computer; this is almost identical inside to the standard climate unit sans the buttons and display.

Identify the plugs to each of the units. There are two grey ones to the HVAC computer, a black one to the control panel and another black one to the satnav unit.

Here comes the fun part. Remove the tape from the above four looms all the way back to where they join to the stereo loom. You will notice that there are a lot of wires that link the units; two (black and brown) between the HVAC computer and the satnav and quite a few more between the beige box and control panel.

Cut each wire one at a time (except the looped ones) and connect the replacement plugs as shown in the chart below. Solder and heatshrink each connection for the best reliability. I recommend labeling each one as you go so you can easily revert it all if the mod doesn’t work. There will be quite a few spare wires left over; heatshrink any spare ends to prevent shorting. Note the two light blue wires that need to be joined together.

Pin numbers are per the service manual and match those with the 170 I used. Most will have some pin numbers on them, but to identify them anyway hold the plug with the retainer clip facing up and the wires facing away from you. The pins are numbered from left to right, top to bottom. For example, a 16 pin plug will be numbered like this:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16

Photo of 20 pin plug:

Wiring Layout

Replacement unit
Plug A (black) – 16 pins
Plug B (black) – 20 pins

Old units
Climate control computer
Plug C (grey) – 22 pins
Plug D (grey) – 26 pins

Control panel
Plug E (black) – 20 pins

Satnav unit
Plug F (black) – 6 pins

Anything italics doesn’t have to be reconnected, I’ve just provided them for reference.

Old New Colour Purpose
C1 A1 Blue/Red +12V Battery
C2 A2 Green/Blue +12V Ignition
C3 A3 Yellow/Red +12V Accessory
C4 A4 Green/Red Sunload Sensor
C5 A5 White/Red Heater
C6 A6 White/Green Heater
C7 N/C Purple Illumination
C8 A7 Yellow A/C Clutch Relay
C9 A8 Blue/White Heater
C10 B1 Green/Yellow Heater
C11 B2 L. Green/White Blower
C12 A9 Black Ground
C13 A10 Sky Blue Sensor Ground
C14 N/C Black/Yellow Illumination ground?
C15 A11 Orange Ambient Sensor
C16 A12 Brown/White Blower
C17 A13 Pink/White Ext. Thermometer
C18 A14 White/Orange Heater
C19 N/C Brown/Yellow Ground (diagnostics?)
C20 A16 Red/Black Heater
C21 B11 Yellow/Blue Heater
C22 B12 Black/Blue Blower
D1 B3 Violet/Yellow Blower Relay
D2 B5 Red/Yellow Blower
D4 Loop Brown/Black Data to Satnav
D6 B8 Green/White Diagnostics
D7 B7 Blue/Orange Diagnostics
D8 Loop Black/Red Control Panel
D9 Loop Brown Control Panel
D10 Loop Blue/Yellow Control Panel
D11 Loop Red/Black Control Panel
D12 Loop White Control Panel
D13 Loop Yellow/Black Control Panel
D14 B13 Violet/Green Demist Relay
D15 B15 Pink/White ECU
D16 B16 Green/Black Speed Sensor (MT)/TCU (AT)
D17 Loop Black/White Data Gnd to Satnav
D20 B17 L. Green/Red Diagnostics
D21 Loop White/Black Control Panel
D22 Loop Red Control Panel
D23 Loop Brown/Red Control Panel
D24 Loop White/Red Control Panel
D25 Loop Red/White Control Panel
D26 Loop Blue/Black Control Panel
E1 N/C Blue/Green +12V Ignition
E2
E3 N/C Black/Yellow Illumination ground?
E4 Loop White/Black Climate Computer
E5 Loop Blue/Yellow Climate Computer
E6 Loop Red/Black Climate Computer
E7 Loop White Climate Computer
E8 Loop Red/White Climate Computer
E9 A10 Sky Blue Sensor Ground
E10 B20 Black Illum. Ground
E11 B10 Violet Illumination
E13 Loop Black/Red Climate Computer
E14 Loop Red Climate Computer
E15 Loop Brown/Red Climate Computer
E16 Loop White/Red Climate Computer
E17 Loop Yellow/Black Climate Computer
E18 Loop Blue/Black Climate Computer
E19 A15 Black Ground
E20 Loop Brown Climate Computer

F – None used. The Yellow/Violet wire is 12V accessory and a handy tap if you have a band expander as it saves chopping the stereo wiring.

Double check your work before reconnecting the battery!

Testing

Hold down the Auto and Recirculate buttons while switching on the ignition. The climate unit will flash a test display (all symbols on) and beep four times. After that it will display a troubleshooting code. If it says 20 then all is well so far. If it says 25 you probably have your car in the shade; try parking it in sunlight. If anything else then double check your wiring. Here’s a list of possible trouble codes:

Press Defrost to begin the self-test cycle. The unit will cycle through a variety of tests and display the number of each test as it runs. Check that everything operates as shown in the test chart below. If this all works OK, ensure the engine starts normally and no fault lights appear.

Housecleaning

The GPS antenna is located behind the instrument cluster. If you want to remove it you will need to take the instruments out first. I left mine in there.

The CeNet and video cable go under the driver kick panel and end up under the drivers seat where there is a TV tuner module stuck to the carpet with Velcro. I removed all of this intact as it it quite simple.

Now you can tape up the looms, put it all back together and enjoy your new climate unit!

Safe driving!